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	<title>Comments on: Education Reform Act of 2009</title>
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	<description>State Senator -- 2nd Suffolk and Middlesex -- Democrat</description>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One good thing about the bill is that does follow your second suggestion and require the involvement of local social service organizations in development of turnaround plans.

I take your point on the first suggestion and this will get considerable attention in the redraft of the legislation.  The amended senate version, which already made changes in this area, is not yet available online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One good thing about the bill is that does follow your second suggestion and require the involvement of local social service organizations in development of turnaround plans.</p>
<p>I take your point on the first suggestion and this will get considerable attention in the redraft of the legislation.  The amended senate version, which already made changes in this area, is not yet available online.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there are quite a few programs oriented to fatherhood and motherhood, but unfortunately, my sense is that they really aren&#039;t at the necessary scale.  If you want to get involved personally, we can probably hook you up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there are quite a few programs oriented to fatherhood and motherhood, but unfortunately, my sense is that they really aren&#8217;t at the necessary scale.  If you want to get involved personally, we can probably hook you up.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s legislators &lt;em&gt; and their constituents&lt;/em&gt;, but you are right that nothing out there offers an easy fix, otherwise the whole issue wouldn&#039;t be so controversial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s legislators <em> and their constituents</em>, but you are right that nothing out there offers an easy fix, otherwise the whole issue wouldn&#8217;t be so controversial.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sense is that in many communities families looking for a good education have lost confidence in their municipally operated school system.  I think they feel it makes sense to offer charter alternatives as well as avenues for improvement within the school system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sense is that in many communities families looking for a good education have lost confidence in their municipally operated school system.  I think they feel it makes sense to offer charter alternatives as well as avenues for improvement within the school system.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Thank you very much for these valuable thoughts.  

My strong sense is that many of the urban legislators who support additional charters are listening closely to their constituents who desperately want alternatives -- they are not listening to economists.

I agree that there is a lot of hogwash out there in the academic discussion of education issues. One of the biggest fallacies is that educational failures are always the teacher&#039;s fault or the school&#039;s fault.  Yet, asking schools to bring every child along is a good ask -- it makes it much harder to abandon kids.  I&#039;ve heard from a lot of parents how valuable the standards have been in focusing attention on the needs of their children.

Re the concern about unfairness in the choice of metric, I think that most reasonable metrics turn out to be highly correlated.  You are going to pick more or less the same set of schools for attention whether you look at MCAS, graduation rates, other test results, or even school violence or teen pregnancy.  It&#039;s important to say that those schools are not &quot;bad schools&quot;.  Too often we talk about identifying the &quot;worst schools.&quot;  No, those schools may be doing great work against long odds.  But they are nonetheless the schools where we aren&#039;t taking kids where they need to go and therefore change is worth trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for these valuable thoughts.  </p>
<p>My strong sense is that many of the urban legislators who support additional charters are listening closely to their constituents who desperately want alternatives &#8212; they are not listening to economists.</p>
<p>I agree that there is a lot of hogwash out there in the academic discussion of education issues. One of the biggest fallacies is that educational failures are always the teacher&#8217;s fault or the school&#8217;s fault.  Yet, asking schools to bring every child along is a good ask &#8212; it makes it much harder to abandon kids.  I&#8217;ve heard from a lot of parents how valuable the standards have been in focusing attention on the needs of their children.</p>
<p>Re the concern about unfairness in the choice of metric, I think that most reasonable metrics turn out to be highly correlated.  You are going to pick more or less the same set of schools for attention whether you look at MCAS, graduation rates, other test results, or even school violence or teen pregnancy.  It&#8217;s important to say that those schools are not &#8220;bad schools&#8221;.  Too often we talk about identifying the &#8220;worst schools.&#8221;  No, those schools may be doing great work against long odds.  But they are nonetheless the schools where we aren&#8217;t taking kids where they need to go and therefore change is worth trying.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena Sokolow-Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena Sokolow-Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Representative Brownsberger-

Thank you for the opportunity to provide input on the latest version of the Education Reform package. Although I applaud the administration and the education committee for their intentional focus on closing the achievement gap through re-tooling underperforming schools, I have two thoughts on how the legislation could be improved.

First, I have to agree with Nate in that the portion of the legislation that deals the turn around of underperforming schools places an unbelievable amount of power with school superintendents. As the daughter of a recently retired public school teacher with 40 plus years of experience in the classroom, I grew up hearing stories about administrators who made poor decisions that negatively impacted the teaching staff, school culture and ultimately the students themselves, due to the disconnect between them and the work of teachers. Clearly this is likely the exception rather than the rule, but at least raises the point that there could be cases where the superintendent is part of the problem, and as such, should not wield as much power as is set forth in the bill. Further, as someone who has student taught with excellent lead teachers, it would be a missed opportunity not to engage these talented professionals as partners in the turn around efforts.

Second, as others have stated in their comments, the issues at hand are very complex, and require an all hands on deck approach to making significant progress on educational outcomes for young people. With that in mind, I think it would be in the interest of all involved to include at least one representative from any youth serving organizations functioning within an underperforming school in the stakeholder group convened by the superintendent and the commissioner to provide recommendations for the school&#039;s innovation plan. Organizations that are already working within schools care deeply about the success of students, and have significant value to add to the conversation around student outcomes, as well as additional resources to bring to the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Representative Brownsberger-</p>
<p>Thank you for the opportunity to provide input on the latest version of the Education Reform package. Although I applaud the administration and the education committee for their intentional focus on closing the achievement gap through re-tooling underperforming schools, I have two thoughts on how the legislation could be improved.</p>
<p>First, I have to agree with Nate in that the portion of the legislation that deals the turn around of underperforming schools places an unbelievable amount of power with school superintendents. As the daughter of a recently retired public school teacher with 40 plus years of experience in the classroom, I grew up hearing stories about administrators who made poor decisions that negatively impacted the teaching staff, school culture and ultimately the students themselves, due to the disconnect between them and the work of teachers. Clearly this is likely the exception rather than the rule, but at least raises the point that there could be cases where the superintendent is part of the problem, and as such, should not wield as much power as is set forth in the bill. Further, as someone who has student taught with excellent lead teachers, it would be a missed opportunity not to engage these talented professionals as partners in the turn around efforts.</p>
<p>Second, as others have stated in their comments, the issues at hand are very complex, and require an all hands on deck approach to making significant progress on educational outcomes for young people. With that in mind, I think it would be in the interest of all involved to include at least one representative from any youth serving organizations functioning within an underperforming school in the stakeholder group convened by the superintendent and the commissioner to provide recommendations for the school&#8217;s innovation plan. Organizations that are already working within schools care deeply about the success of students, and have significant value to add to the conversation around student outcomes, as well as additional resources to bring to the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Penrice</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Penrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By way of introduction, I am a Cambridge public school parent and member of the school council in my children&#039;s elementary school. So while no means an expert, I am a pretty involved and, I think, well-informed parent. I think that improving urban public education in the Commonwealth is an absolute first-order priority, but I have real reservations about this bill from what I have managed to learn about it.

The bill would make the lowest-scoring 20% of schools and 5% percent of districts eligible to be declared &quot;underperforming&quot; based on MCAS reading and math scores. The problem with this, it seems to me, is that there will always be a lowest-performing 20% or 5%, even if schools and districts are improving. Jack Welch famously fired the lowest-performing 10% of GE employees every year. That solution might work for certain types of corporations (though Jack Welch is now known to have manipulated the numbers at GE to achieve illusory earnings growth year after year), but schools are not corporations and it is pointless to try to run them that way, the illusions of many not especially knowledgeable business executives notwithstanding. Incidentally, I wonder how many business executives—who, if they are smart enough, think long and hard about the kinds of metrics they focus on in managing their businesses—have any serious understanding of the limitations of standardized testing for evaluating the progress of students and schools. (Notice that I say “limitations,” not “uselessness”—I am not an anti-testing fanatic.)

I am also concerned that the criteria for determining which schools and districts will be declared &quot;underperforming&quot; and &quot;chronically underperforming&quot; are subjective and capable of being abused by those whose blanket solution for underperforming public schools is privatization. Plenty of wooly-headed academic economists and their acolytes in worlds of business and politics believe that the profit motive is sufficient to motivate desirable change in any kind of human endeavor, but nobody who has ever spent any time in a school or with teachers believes this. I can believe that urban legislators are so desperate for a solution to &quot;underperforming&quot; schools that they are willing to buy this malarkey, but I wonder how many of them give the care and attention to the content of legislation (especially bills that are being given the rush treatment this one is) as you do, Rep. Brownsberger. I admire the conscientiousness with which you do your job and I thank you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By way of introduction, I am a Cambridge public school parent and member of the school council in my children&#8217;s elementary school. So while no means an expert, I am a pretty involved and, I think, well-informed parent. I think that improving urban public education in the Commonwealth is an absolute first-order priority, but I have real reservations about this bill from what I have managed to learn about it.</p>
<p>The bill would make the lowest-scoring 20% of schools and 5% percent of districts eligible to be declared &#8220;underperforming&#8221; based on MCAS reading and math scores. The problem with this, it seems to me, is that there will always be a lowest-performing 20% or 5%, even if schools and districts are improving. Jack Welch famously fired the lowest-performing 10% of GE employees every year. That solution might work for certain types of corporations (though Jack Welch is now known to have manipulated the numbers at GE to achieve illusory earnings growth year after year), but schools are not corporations and it is pointless to try to run them that way, the illusions of many not especially knowledgeable business executives notwithstanding. Incidentally, I wonder how many business executives—who, if they are smart enough, think long and hard about the kinds of metrics they focus on in managing their businesses—have any serious understanding of the limitations of standardized testing for evaluating the progress of students and schools. (Notice that I say “limitations,” not “uselessness”—I am not an anti-testing fanatic.)</p>
<p>I am also concerned that the criteria for determining which schools and districts will be declared &#8220;underperforming&#8221; and &#8220;chronically underperforming&#8221; are subjective and capable of being abused by those whose blanket solution for underperforming public schools is privatization. Plenty of wooly-headed academic economists and their acolytes in worlds of business and politics believe that the profit motive is sufficient to motivate desirable change in any kind of human endeavor, but nobody who has ever spent any time in a school or with teachers believes this. I can believe that urban legislators are so desperate for a solution to &#8220;underperforming&#8221; schools that they are willing to buy this malarkey, but I wonder how many of them give the care and attention to the content of legislation (especially bills that are being given the rush treatment this one is) as you do, Rep. Brownsberger. I admire the conscientiousness with which you do your job and I thank you for it.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraCGoodman</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraCGoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legislators from Urban districts are desperate - and for good reason. They  want a silver bullet.
It is easy  to accept simple solutions to complex problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legislators from Urban districts are desperate &#8211; and for good reason. They  want a silver bullet.<br />
It is easy  to accept simple solutions to complex problems</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraCGoodman</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraCGoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment related to the funding formula. Charter school tuition is about twice the cost of funding for a regular( non sped , non voc) student. So there is a significant impact on the quality of education for those student who remain in the traditional school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment related to the funding formula. Charter school tuition is about twice the cost of funding for a regular( non sped , non voc) student. So there is a significant impact on the quality of education for those student who remain in the traditional school.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Mahon</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Mahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not currently training parents of unsuccessful students on how to help their children and holding the parents accountable. Seriously, if you invest in a training program for parents instead of or in addition to students, you stand a better shot at being successful. We know that it is very hard for a parent who can&#039;t read or do higher level math to help their children so let&#039;s break the cycle and educate them both together.  I&#039;d volunteer in an urban community to help parents at night if the system would set something up to allow me to do it. I&#039;m betting a bunch of us would be willing to help you.  Sometimes you just need someone to cheerlead the parents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not currently training parents of unsuccessful students on how to help their children and holding the parents accountable. Seriously, if you invest in a training program for parents instead of or in addition to students, you stand a better shot at being successful. We know that it is very hard for a parent who can&#8217;t read or do higher level math to help their children so let&#8217;s break the cycle and educate them both together.  I&#8217;d volunteer in an urban community to help parents at night if the system would set something up to allow me to do it. I&#8217;m betting a bunch of us would be willing to help you.  Sometimes you just need someone to cheerlead the parents!</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t quite mean this, but I think it is a mistake to classify those who don&#039;t get in as &quot;losers.&quot;  In a system with more flexiblity, it is possible that all schools will get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t quite mean this, but I think it is a mistake to classify those who don&#8217;t get in as &#8220;losers.&#8221;  In a system with more flexiblity, it is possible that all schools will get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Cummings</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they looking for any alternatives or better schools?  The Innovation schools look like a much better alternative than charter schools because all students in the school or district will benefit from them.  Mass. is legally and morally bound to provide free and appropriate educations to all of its students.  I&#039;m not willing to let the state off the hook by offering dubious &quot;alternatives.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they looking for any alternatives or better schools?  The Innovation schools look like a much better alternative than charter schools because all students in the school or district will benefit from them.  Mass. is legally and morally bound to provide free and appropriate educations to all of its students.  I&#8217;m not willing to let the state off the hook by offering dubious &#8220;alternatives.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraCGoodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarbaraCGoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is about choice it&#039;s about who your parents are and how the dice is rolled. More involved parents will place their kids in the lottery  and then the choice is made by Lady Luck.
   Moreover, given the funding formula, for every one maybe lucky  student there are two  certain losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is about choice it&#8217;s about who your parents are and how the dice is rolled. More involved parents will place their kids in the lottery  and then the choice is made by Lady Luck.<br />
   Moreover, given the funding formula, for every one maybe lucky  student there are two  certain losers.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  I would only add that we should be trying to do that in every school that is underperforming.  Many, in those schools, would argue that we are already, . . . nothing is easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  I would only add that we should be trying to do that in every school that is underperforming.  Many, in those schools, would argue that we are already, . . . nothing is easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Mahon</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Mahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

We already know that the students who perform poorly in school are often tied to parents who don&#039;t follow up with them on homework, reading with them and encouraging them to be focused on their school work.  

There is only so much the teachers can do in a the short school day and I would suggest that if you need to focus on charter schools as a solution, we design charter schools that the parents go to after a regular day in public school with their children to teach them how to study, read, and search for answers to the questions they have.

Without parental commitment to follow through with their children after school, it is a hard hill to climb even for the children that try their hardest. 

Assistance and motivation by parents would increase the children&#039;s rate of success significantly.  And this would, in the long run, cost the taxpayer less and have stronger results.

Thanks,
Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>We already know that the students who perform poorly in school are often tied to parents who don&#8217;t follow up with them on homework, reading with them and encouraging them to be focused on their school work.  </p>
<p>There is only so much the teachers can do in a the short school day and I would suggest that if you need to focus on charter schools as a solution, we design charter schools that the parents go to after a regular day in public school with their children to teach them how to study, read, and search for answers to the questions they have.</p>
<p>Without parental commitment to follow through with their children after school, it is a hard hill to climb even for the children that try their hardest. </p>
<p>Assistance and motivation by parents would increase the children&#8217;s rate of success significantly.  And this would, in the long run, cost the taxpayer less and have stronger results.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fair critique of some charters. I definitely get the idea of cherry picking districts and kids -- either for corporate profit or just for career advancement.  But, I am influenced by the sense of urban legislators that their constituents want these options.

Re the dicatorial powers, I&#039;ll be giving this feature of the bill a close look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fair critique of some charters. I definitely get the idea of cherry picking districts and kids &#8212; either for corporate profit or just for career advancement.  But, I am influenced by the sense of urban legislators that their constituents want these options.</p>
<p>Re the dicatorial powers, I&#8217;ll be giving this feature of the bill a close look.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, totally, agree that the gap is not primarily about teachers.  I&#039;m listening though to the voices from those urban districts that are asking for alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, totally, agree that the gap is not primarily about teachers.  I&#8217;m listening though to the voices from those urban districts that are asking for alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: ronon</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>ronon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience as a teacher (and with many friends in the profession as well), I would agree with you that underperforming schools are often the result of poor management rather than poor teaching.  But this bill would give the superintendents practically dictatorial powers.  Does that solve the problem?  Maybe we could frame the discussion this way: Why doesn&#039;t this bill allow the state to remove underperforming superintendents?

Also, I wish that charter schools provided the choices that you allude to, but I am not convinced.  Aside from the research that BGoodman points out above, the charter school movement is not about establishing choices, it&#039;s about making money.  Across the state, the business model is as follows:  Find a district that has high per-pupil expenditures and propose a charter school there.  Like a parasite, the charter school will try to draw away as many students as possible in an effort to be profitable.  In order to ensure success (in terms of test schores, etc.) the charter school will reject underperforming students and seek to attract the best students; in essence skimming the cream off the top of the district.
By lifting the cap on charter schools, I&#039;m afraid that we will be opening the floodgates, and districts that have decided to invest in their students will be the primary targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience as a teacher (and with many friends in the profession as well), I would agree with you that underperforming schools are often the result of poor management rather than poor teaching.  But this bill would give the superintendents practically dictatorial powers.  Does that solve the problem?  Maybe we could frame the discussion this way: Why doesn&#8217;t this bill allow the state to remove underperforming superintendents?</p>
<p>Also, I wish that charter schools provided the choices that you allude to, but I am not convinced.  Aside from the research that BGoodman points out above, the charter school movement is not about establishing choices, it&#8217;s about making money.  Across the state, the business model is as follows:  Find a district that has high per-pupil expenditures and propose a charter school there.  Like a parasite, the charter school will try to draw away as many students as possible in an effort to be profitable.  In order to ensure success (in terms of test schores, etc.) the charter school will reject underperforming students and seek to attract the best students; in essence skimming the cream off the top of the district.<br />
By lifting the cap on charter schools, I&#8217;m afraid that we will be opening the floodgates, and districts that have decided to invest in their students will be the primary targets.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraCGoodman</title>
		<link>http://willbrownsberger.com/index.php/archives/3060#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraCGoodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, thanks for the opportunity to comment.

Charter Schools are not silver bullets. Recent research locally and nationally provide little evidence of their effectiveness.
see: http://credo.stanford.edu/  and
http://www.massinc.org/index.php?id=743&amp;pub_id=2475

Why are we making such a big investment in something that has such poor results. We have had Charter schools in MA for 16 years. Only a very small group has benefited and the students remaining in the traditional schools have born the cost. 

There are volumes and volumes of research articles on the multitude of factors that contribute to the achievement gap.  It is a complex issue with education being only one important variables. For educational reform efforts to have a meaningful impact they must work hand in hand with new economic and social policies. 
see bg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, thanks for the opportunity to comment.</p>
<p>Charter Schools are not silver bullets. Recent research locally and nationally provide little evidence of their effectiveness.<br />
see: <a href="http://credo.stanford.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://credo.stanford.edu/</a>  and<br />
<a href="http://www.massinc.org/index.php?id=743&#038;pub_id=2475" rel="nofollow">http://www.massinc.org/index.php?id=743&#038;pub_id=2475</a></p>
<p>Why are we making such a big investment in something that has such poor results. We have had Charter schools in MA for 16 years. Only a very small group has benefited and the students remaining in the traditional schools have born the cost. </p>
<p>There are volumes and volumes of research articles on the multitude of factors that contribute to the achievement gap.  It is a complex issue with education being only one important variables. For educational reform efforts to have a meaningful impact they must work hand in hand with new economic and social policies.<br />
see bg</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brownsberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Brownsberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nate, Thanks for weighing in!

I don&#039;t see charters as being about getting away from collective bargaining.  Charter schools can and have been unionized.  Charter schools are about getting away from dysfunctional school systems more broadly -- weak school committees and management teams, often more importantly than weak teachers.  

I&#039;d be the first to agree that when kids aren&#039;t learning, it isn&#039;t necessarily the teacher&#039;s fault or even the school&#039;s fault.  Kids have a lot of things going on in their lives outside the building.  But if a system is failing consistently, it&#039;s worth shaking things up and seeing if something better might come out -- these are systems that have outcomes can&#039;t get too much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nate, Thanks for weighing in!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see charters as being about getting away from collective bargaining.  Charter schools can and have been unionized.  Charter schools are about getting away from dysfunctional school systems more broadly &#8212; weak school committees and management teams, often more importantly than weak teachers.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be the first to agree that when kids aren&#8217;t learning, it isn&#8217;t necessarily the teacher&#8217;s fault or even the school&#8217;s fault.  Kids have a lot of things going on in their lives outside the building.  But if a system is failing consistently, it&#8217;s worth shaking things up and seeing if something better might come out &#8212; these are systems that have outcomes can&#8217;t get too much worse.</p>
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